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[moscow_watcher]

Found out today.

Scene from 5.04 Out Of My Mind. Aired 17 Oct 2000.



“MAMA, 1881.”

Joss knew it. All the time. Knew about William and his mother. Knew it when he worked on FFL. Knew when he wrote OMWF and Lessons, when he rewrote the ending of BY.

I'm speechless.

Comments

[spikeylover.livejournal.com]

That boggles the mind.

[spikeylover.livejournal.com]

That's the tombstone he threw, wasn't it? (when he said Buffy was haunting him)

[crisl.livejournal.com]

ёёёёёёёёёпппппрстттттттттттттттт

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Полностью совпадаем. Слов нет - одни невнятные звуки.

[sanann.livejournal.com]

WOW! How did u know? How did u see? I'm speechless!

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Well, it's not exactly me. I'm reading Spring Summers essays on BtVS and she mentions it.

[petzipellepingo.livejournal.com]

That little devil. He had the whole storyline worked out and never admitted it. Thanks so much for spotting that.

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Actually, I read about it today in old SpringSummers essay and immediately run to check on my DVD. I'm still stunned.

[sarahlynnl.livejournal.com]

Joss is sneaky little guy isn't he? Ok, I don't know if he is little but he is sneaky and that is neat.

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Oh, yes. Sometimes I want to tie him to a chair and torture him with question until he tells us all. :)

p.s. Sarah, why don't you visit our current Out of My Mind discussion on CDS?
http://forum.colddeadseed.com/viewtopic.php?t=826&start=80
I posted a lot of yummy JM screencaps there.

надо же

[crisl.livejournal.com]

Пересмотрела на DVD и правда, это и написано. Но что еще интересней, именно его он вырывает с корнем и разбивает.

Re: надо же

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Именно. Тема одержимости и т.д. Для меня это показатель того как работают мозги Джосса. Ведь в тот момент никто не знал, что будет 6-7 сезон. Он это придумал "на всякий случай", "чтоб было".

Сейчас сжу и думаю: "А ведь Джосс наверняка знает, что должно было произойти в "Светляке" в третьем-пятом сезоне. Может быть, даже в деталях."

[fahrbotdrusilla]

Came from spikeylover‘s pimp.

This actually isn’t all that surprising to me.

[drusplace.livejournal.com]

Me too! (from the pimp) and me neither (about the surprise!) Didn't Joss have Dawn planned from like two season before? And Joyce's death? Cool that you caught this though.

[kseenaa.livejournal.com]

That IS mindboogling... And very intresting... And I blame spikeylover for coming here... :-P

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Agree. Now I think that Joss has planned out not only AtS season 6 but also AtS season 7. At least he mapped the most shocking events of these seasons.

[frimfram.livejournal.com]

But... 1881? Surely it'd've been 1880 that he killed his mum? If he'd only been missing for days when he returned to his home, and it was before they fled to Yorkshire - which was in 1880? Or have I got totally the wrong end of the stick?

Alright, I need a life :)

Hee! Nifty post.

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

We can always fanwank that Drusilla sired William in the end if December... :)

[elisi]

I know! Squeeeeee! I *think* it was Spring Summer at The Soulful Spike Society who pointed it out in one of her Spike-centricity reviews!

I love, love, love my show! :)

[elisi]

Only now did I bother to read the other comments and saw that you're reading her reviews. She's SO smart!

[bogwitch.livejournal.com]

Not a great stretch to believe Joss had a backstory to draw on, but nifty nonetheless!

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Obviously Joss knows about his characters more than he reveals...

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

Hee!

I love my Joss!

Chani

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Hi, Chani! I enjoy your posts on BC&S! You're very welcome at our episode discussion thread on CDS!

http://forum.colddeadseed.com/viewforum.php?f=24

[lionella71.livejournal.com]

Офигеть!

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Ага. Теперь я буду рассматривать каждую надпись в кадре в подзорную трубу.

[novichok74.livejournal.com]

Паразит он маленький :) Сидел небось и в кулачок хихикал - заметит народ или нет :)

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Маленький??!! Огромный паразитище!!! За что его и любим. :)

[sister-luck.livejournal.com]

Wow. Cool. Not a coincidence, I think. Joss must have asked for that gravestone specifically.

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Sure. In the scene Spike destroys it so they had to put it there. I wonder how many takes they did, how many gravestones were smashed and if all of them have borne the same sign.

WOW!!!

[geroneja.livejournal.com]

I knew it!!!!! Нет, я так и знала, что где-то еще остались подводные камни, которые мы не заметили:))) С ума сойти можно:)

Re: WOW!!!

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Угу. Пересматривать старые серии очень интересно, а я еще и скринкапсы на CDS выкладываю, поэтому все сцены с ДМ смотрю покадрово. Завораживающее занятие. А ведь мы пока только до пятого сезона дошли... :)
Я тебя в френды записываю, ладно? Я бы раньше записала, но не знала, что у тебя появился ЖЖ.

[effulgentnida.livejournal.com]

wow! I don't think I would of ever noticed that!

Moscow watcher? you used to post on the slayerverse board didn't you? I remember you! I used to post there too, I was Spikes Angel on there (then I changed to Effulgent) Hi! *Waves*

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Hi! *waves back* Yes, I posted on the Slayerverse board, but now I'm resigned to writing fanfics and discussing BtVS on CDS (currently we're at 504 OOMM so I found out about the gravestone while reading essays and posting caps from the episode)

[alramie.livejournal.com]

Ё мое. Это ж надо... Сильно.

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Я теперь чешу в репе и думаю - до какого же сезона он "Светляка" распланировал...