Excellent point - though I still feel there's more than the alloted amount of "damsel in distress" about that if it turns out that the whole comic will be about saving Fred. But... we'll see.
Fred awakens in her
And I still disagree. :-) That scene is a lot more powerful if it's a logical part of Illyria's arc over the last few episodes and right up until her final scene in NFA. Her entire demeanor (the rather stilted "my love, my love", not to mention her expression when she gets to her feet - that's Amy Acker doing Illyria long before the blue makeup comes back again) screams "Illyria" to me. I don't deny that they were probably planning to bring Fred back in some way if the TV show had continued. That doesn't mean every single scene where Illyria is anything but "crush kill destroy" is Fred; the "lie to you" scene is the lynchpin of her entire post-"Shells" arc, and the logical step between her concern for Wesley (and partly Gunn) over the last couple of episodes and her painfully grief-stricken "I wish to do more violence!" later on, which isn't in the least bit Fred-ish.
Hands imagery has always been the sign of supreme truth in Jossverse.
Can't say that ever struck me - example?
Maybe it's because she cries, and tears are sacred in Jossverse
Exactly. Spike started his journey towards redemption in earnest when he wept over Buffy, Illyria starts hers when she weeps over Wesley. That doesn't mean they're William and Fred again.
I wonder if they're Gunn's allies, his "secret weapon".
Excellent point again - makes me think of this:
ANDREW: Check the view screen, Uhura. I got 12 Vampyre Slayers behind me, and not one of them has ever dated you. She's coming with us one way or another.
Angel has (or would have if he were a vampire) every reason to fear Slayers who don't know him. It will be interesting to see how they handle the Slayers - assuming this is the same canon as "season 8" and that they'll stick to the "no crossovers" rule, there's still a number of ways they could have ended up there. Did they just happen to be in LA, or were they sent there, and by whom?
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Date: 2008-05-19 06:43 pm (UTC)It started with a girl, remember?
Excellent point - though I still feel there's more than the alloted amount of "damsel in distress" about that if it turns out that the whole comic will be about saving Fred. But... we'll see.
Fred awakens in her
And I still disagree. :-) That scene is a lot more powerful if it's a logical part of Illyria's arc over the last few episodes and right up until her final scene in NFA. Her entire demeanor (the rather stilted "my love, my love", not to mention her expression when she gets to her feet - that's Amy Acker doing Illyria long before the blue makeup comes back again) screams "Illyria" to me. I don't deny that they were probably planning to bring Fred back in some way if the TV show had continued. That doesn't mean every single scene where Illyria is anything but "crush kill destroy" is Fred; the "lie to you" scene is the lynchpin of her entire post-"Shells" arc, and the logical step between her concern for Wesley (and partly Gunn) over the last couple of episodes and her painfully grief-stricken "I wish to do more violence!" later on, which isn't in the least bit Fred-ish.
Hands imagery has always been the sign of supreme truth in Jossverse.
Can't say that ever struck me - example?
Maybe it's because she cries, and tears are sacred in Jossverse
Exactly. Spike started his journey towards redemption in earnest when he wept over Buffy, Illyria starts hers when she weeps over Wesley. That doesn't mean they're William and Fred again.
I wonder if they're Gunn's allies, his "secret weapon".
Excellent point again - makes me think of this:
ANDREW: Check the view screen, Uhura. I got 12 Vampyre Slayers behind me, and not one of them has ever dated you. She's coming with us one way or another.
Angel has (or would have if he were a vampire) every reason to fear Slayers who don't know him. It will be interesting to see how they handle the Slayers - assuming this is the same canon as "season 8" and that they'll stick to the "no crossovers" rule, there's still a number of ways they could have ended up there. Did they just happen to be in LA, or were they sent there, and by whom?