Ookay. :) a reviewer may easily turn into a whiner who complains about the lack of Shakespearean depth in a Shreck movie. This one is unwarranted for two reasons. 1) We absolutely can expect Shakespearean depth in Joss, who is, on top of all else, a Shakespearean geek and used a lot of Shakespearean themes and even names in his works. Not a stretch to expect this depth in a different media, which brings us to 2): cartoons can not only have Shakespearean depth but also deal with Shakespearean themes. "Lion King" was a brilliant take on "Hamlet", for example (and its sequel was not so brilliant take on Romeo and Juliette, but hey, they tried). This comic doesn't deliver yet. But who knows - it's a long story.
But this one: Faith's greatness comes at the expence of everything else. I can only say "amen" to that. And I was the one who didn't care for her on the show but came to appreciate her character in this arc. Her development was great, and I can't see how she can be considered the same as in Season 3 - she was a different person in Season 3, her morals were asleep, her soul non-functioning, she was driven only by her desires and passions. Season-3!Faith is Gigi in this book. And we *can* tell a difference btw Faith and Gigi, nes pa? Faith journey in this arc makes perfect sense - but at expence of everything else, I agree. We can wank that it took her so long to realize she could help other slayers because she was tied up with Robin and then with break-up with Robin. She doesn't want to do dirty jobs anymore. I think she'll still fight vampires to save people, if needed - or when teaming up with "bad" slayers. She's tired, psychically unstable and "over the hill". She doesn't want to use her dark side to fight, as it's too much on her. Remember Spike in Get It Done? A bit of analogy here. Spike got over it, over hiding from his dark side, because it was absolutely necessary to the fight. And Spike is Spike: he bounces back, he's a survivor, so he could keep it together even after that, after letting his demon back. Faith is more damaged and more human. I'm happy for her to have a break, and not to be alone in the end. Giles is slightly better than Wood for her - even though those issues with hiding the info and manipulating behind people's backs were left unaddressed. As for conflicts with Giles and with Buffy being artificial - also completely agree. They may be addressed later - or may be not. There's nothing to discuss until they are addressed. Also want to point out that Faith-Mayor was paralleled with Faith-Giles and not just with Faith-Roden. "The guy who put me in a dress", the guy who sends her for jobs to "spill blood of the innocents" - it's Giles too. Giles role in her arc ended to be pretty simple, much less than I hoped. It was all about who matters to Giles more - Buffy or Faith, and can Faith matter more to him than Buffy. And also whether he cares for her or not - so he comes through to help her in the end and that's the closure for that concern. But the issues of manipulating, trust, withholding the truth? So Buffy and Faith shouldn't worry their pretty little heads with that Twilight stuff, Giles would know better? That part left me very unsatisfied. On "you aren't even English". Gigi was shown to be obsessed with aristocracy, bloodlines, royalty etc. Not being English is even worse for her than not being an aristocrat, worse than being an English commoner. It's a step below that in her eyes - being a "colonial". So it's not a funny line on her part: in her eyes it's uncovering the depth of betrayal. Also Faith reaction "ouch. it hurts" when being called a New-Yorker: that one was played for laughs. As there's a long-standing rivalry between Boston and New York, in everything, especially in baseball. (heh, and Joss was wearing Boston "Red Sox" cap on Mutant Enemies day! Looks like he's serious about coming to Boston. :)). On Twilight guy. I hope, hope, hope it's not Skinless Warren in a suit! It probably cannot be, as floaty boots appear in the end of #1, and Warren has just been unearthed. But maybe he was put into a suit a teleported there? Oh please let it not be Skinless Warren!
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Date: 2007-12-09 08:55 pm (UTC)a reviewer may easily turn into a whiner who complains about the lack of Shakespearean depth in a Shreck movie.
This one is unwarranted for two reasons. 1) We absolutely can expect Shakespearean depth in Joss, who is, on top of all else, a Shakespearean geek and used a lot of Shakespearean themes and even names in his works. Not a stretch to expect this depth in a different media, which brings us to 2): cartoons can not only have Shakespearean depth but also deal with Shakespearean themes. "Lion King" was a brilliant take on "Hamlet", for example (and its sequel was not so brilliant take on Romeo and Juliette, but hey, they tried).
This comic doesn't deliver yet. But who knows - it's a long story.
But this one:
Faith's greatness comes at the expence of everything else.
I can only say "amen" to that. And I was the one who didn't care for her on the show but came to appreciate her character in this arc. Her development was great, and I can't see how she can be considered the same as in Season 3 - she was a different person in Season 3, her morals were asleep, her soul non-functioning, she was driven only by her desires and passions. Season-3!Faith is Gigi in this book. And we *can* tell a difference btw Faith and Gigi, nes pa?
Faith journey in this arc makes perfect sense - but at expence of everything else, I agree. We can wank that it took her so long to realize she could help other slayers because she was tied up with Robin and then with break-up with Robin. She doesn't want to do dirty jobs anymore. I think she'll still fight vampires to save people, if needed - or when teaming up with "bad" slayers. She's tired, psychically unstable and "over the hill". She doesn't want to use her dark side to fight, as it's too much on her. Remember Spike in Get It Done? A bit of analogy here. Spike got over it, over hiding from his dark side, because it was absolutely necessary to the fight. And Spike is Spike: he bounces back, he's a survivor, so he could keep it together even after that, after letting his demon back. Faith is more damaged and more human. I'm happy for her to have a break, and not to be alone in the end. Giles is slightly better than Wood for her - even though those issues with hiding the info and manipulating behind people's backs were left unaddressed.
As for conflicts with Giles and with Buffy being artificial - also completely agree. They may be addressed later - or may be not. There's nothing to discuss until they are addressed.
Also want to point out that Faith-Mayor was paralleled with Faith-Giles and not just with Faith-Roden. "The guy who put me in a dress", the guy who sends her for jobs to "spill blood of the innocents" - it's Giles too. Giles role in her arc ended to be pretty simple, much less than I hoped. It was all about who matters to Giles more - Buffy or Faith, and can Faith matter more to him than Buffy. And also whether he cares for her or not - so he comes through to help her in the end and that's the closure for that concern. But the issues of manipulating, trust, withholding the truth? So Buffy and Faith shouldn't worry their pretty little heads with that Twilight stuff, Giles would know better? That part left me very unsatisfied.
On "you aren't even English". Gigi was shown to be obsessed with aristocracy, bloodlines, royalty etc. Not being English is even worse for her than not being an aristocrat, worse than being an English commoner. It's a step below that in her eyes - being a "colonial". So it's not a funny line on her part: in her eyes it's uncovering the depth of betrayal. Also Faith reaction "ouch. it hurts" when being called a New-Yorker: that one was played for laughs. As there's a long-standing rivalry between Boston and New York, in everything, especially in baseball. (heh, and Joss was wearing Boston "Red Sox" cap on Mutant Enemies day! Looks like he's serious about coming to Boston. :)).
On Twilight guy. I hope, hope, hope it's not Skinless Warren in a suit! It probably cannot be, as floaty boots appear in the end of #1, and Warren has just been unearthed. But maybe he was put into a suit a teleported there? Oh please let it not be Skinless Warren!